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Re: Stolen Images

Postby bulkinav » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:30 am

For additional protection of copyright you may to put a watermark on the image, as do many authors. Think about it.
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Re: Stolen Images

Postby Vapymid » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:05 am

turbguy wrote:That's not the Original image, it's the "large" size, resampled down by Flickr to 1024 x 410. The original is 4522 x 1833.

So he hasn't got the high quality copy of the picture anyway - why so much excitement then?

Arjayuu wrote:For me, the thing that is most annoying is that someone posts someone else's image but does not give the credit to the owner or the link back to the Flickr or other site they got the image from. If they don't give this credit, in essence they are posting it and giving the impression it is their own image: wrong!

Agree. As I said earlier - it's unethical. But theft? Hardly. More like bad manners, in the context of this particular case. It's not as if Lkevin was presenting his page as his own professional portfolio, mixed with pictures of his mother and all...

Regardless of whether they can download the image from someone's Flickr or other site, copyright in the image stays with the original author and they need the author's permission to use that image. Technically this is the case too even if all they are doing is posting it on their site never mind using it for commercial purposes!

Using others work without permission for commercial purposes is criminal infringement in most jurisdictions. I agree that it is wrong to do that (though the cynic in me is saying that if the author of the work is not marketing it and has no intention to do so in a particular territory then he suffers no damage if someone else does it anyway, but I accept most people will have an issue with such view, myself included, probably).

However, as to just using an image from the Web for personal purposes - here the absolutist interpretation of copyright is out of place in my opinion. You put anything on the 'net - you must expect people will use it. It's almost as if you put it in the public domain and I think it's about time the authors recognised this reality.

If I see a picture that I personally like I will often casually DL it to be looked at later at leisure and move on. I will not bother to try to find the author or get his permission. As far as I am concerned - if you don't want me to have your picture - don't put it on the 'net in the first place, and if you did, it amounts to your consent for my using it but for *personal* use only.

Let's face it - your (or mine) desire to control your (or mine) picture in such circumstances has nothing to do with commerce, it's a simple combination of vanity and a desire to be "in control". But I don't see why we, as authors of our pictures, should have any right to expect that we can satisfy both at the same time.

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Re: Stolen Images

Postby turbguy » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:46 pm

Oh, it's theft. The only question of quantifying the damage done. Images on the internet may be royalty free, or may not be. In my case, they are copyrighted with all rights reserved to me.

In this case, the poster in PHEREO lifted them from a Chinese website (they had them stored on Picasa) that was using them in order to sell stereoscopic viewers. I should be able to have a "cut of the action". All they had to do was ask if they could use them. They knew who to ask!

I post them on Flickr for personal use by the viewer only. It is up to the poster to monitor usage and if they find a "violation" demand a correction in strong civil language. That's what I've done here, and will continue to do.
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Re: Stolen Images

Postby linuxluver » Sun May 06, 2012 4:39 am

I spend a lot of time on Tumblr, Imgur, Lightbox, Google+ and Instagram. 'Copyrighted' images flow past every few seconds.

Picking on Phereo seems like a waste of time.

If people see an image they like, they share it. They paid nothing for it. They demand nothing in payment.

This is culture. It's what people do.

Get your images off the Internet if this isn't acceptable to you. People share. It's what people have always done.
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Re: Stolen Images

Postby turbguy » Sun May 13, 2012 9:08 pm

If they share it, fine. As long as it links back to the original.

Posting my images on a photographic web site carries with the the implication that they were either were the maker, or they own it. I just don't "pick on" Phereo, I also pick on Flickr, Imgur, Reddit, and everywhere I find my images being "represented" as owned by someone other than me.
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