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Re: What to buy 3D camera

Postby linuxluver » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:43 am

Speleo wrote:I'm also very pleased with the Fuji W3 (I got my for £90 on e-Bay; the owner had only used it for 12 shots).

My only major gripe is that there is no viewfinder -- and the screen is so reflective that it cannot really be used outdoors on a sunny day -- all you see in the screen is your own reflection. Excellent indoors, underground, etc.

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Have your turned the LCD brightness to maximum? It chews up the battery, but I bought two more batteries and have found that 3 batteries lets me get a long way through any day without worrying about power.

I don't live in a tropical area, so maybe the Sun isn't as strong for me (I don't know where you live). But with the LCD on maximum, I can usually see the screen OK. It does help to shade it with my hand, or the visor of a cap. Try wearing a hat. :-)
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Re: What to buy 3D camera

Postby payt69 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:10 pm

I've also got the Fuji W3. It's a nice camera for 3d pictures. There are a few things to keep in mind though:

- Make sure you have enough light. The sensors don't seem to be very dynamic and generate a lot of noise, so the more light, the less obvious the noise is. Also, pictures of people tend to blurr easily when light is too low.
-The colours tend to be a bit bland. This is nothing you can't handle in stereo photo maker or paintshop, but you have to keep in mind that some pictures do need a bit of touching up if you want them to be all that they can be.
- Video mode is sortof OK.. I wouldn't shoot a vacation with it or anything, but it's fun for a short clip here and there. The problem is the low framerate (24 fps, i think) which really does't quite cut it when compared to other camera's, such as the Sony TD 10. Movies also tend to look a bit washed out and noisy (depending on light conditions again).
-Due to it's wide-ish stereobase, it's not very suitable for closeups. You can adjust the convergence of any shot, but you're likely to end up with weird 3d. I use either my optimus 3d for close ups, or my Panasonic p&s camera in cha cha mode.

I do like the wide stereo base of the Fuji though. It's a really fun camera to have when you're out and about. You can make quick snapshots. I always make sure i make several shots of anything i like, just to make sure that there's at least 1 shot that has it all right.
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Re: What to buy 3D camera

Postby Vapymid » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:17 pm

I agree with all your observations. Just wanted to mention that you can also use the Fuji to do synthetic shots (aka "cha cha" but I hate the word :( )

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Re: What to buy 3D camera

Postby skyemail » Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:18 pm

I also found the W3 display screen nearly impossible to use outdoors.
Then I installed a magnifying hood that I bought on Amazon and it makes such a dufference!
The hood detaches quickly, but I tend to leave it on as the camera is easier to hold without getting fingers over the lens.
It is also easier to get hyperstereo photos using the magnifying hood lens as the alignment is more precise when taking the right eye shot and matching it to the left eye image on screen.
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Re: What to buy 3D camera

Postby linuxluver » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:56 pm

payt69 wrote:I've also got the Fuji W3. It's a nice camera for 3d pictures. There are a few things to keep in mind though:

- Make sure you have enough light. The sensors don't seem to be very dynamic and generate a lot of noise, so the more light, the less obvious the noise is. Also, pictures of people tend to blurr easily when light is too low.


- I increase the ISO setting, which improves the handling of light...at the expense of 'graininess'. Conversely, if there is a lot of light around I set the ISO lower so the images are less grainy.


payt69 wrote: -The colours tend to be a bit bland. This is nothing you can't handle in stereo photo maker or paintshop, but you have to keep in mind that some pictures do need a bit of touching up if you want them to be all that they can be.


I turn on the "Chrome" colour mode. It saturates the colours very nicely.

payt69 wrote: - Video mode is sortof OK.. I wouldn't shoot a vacation with it or anything, but it's fun for a short clip here and there. The problem is the low framerate (24 fps, i think) which really does't quite cut it when compared to other camera's, such as the Sony TD 10. Movies also tend to look a bit washed out and noisy (depending on light conditions again).


I guess my eyes are burned out. My videos look fine. :-)

payt69 wrote:-Due to it's wide-ish stereobase, it's not very suitable for closeups. You can adjust the convergence of any shot, but you're likely to end up with weird 3d. I use either my optimus 3d for close ups, or my Panasonic p&s camera in cha cha mode.


Agreed. I do the same. My LG 3D Max phone is used for close-ups as well. I have tried cha-cha with the W3, but for people and animals it isn't practical.

payt69 wrote:I do like the wide stereo base of the Fuji though. It's a really fun camera to have when you're out and about. You can make quick snapshots. I always make sure i make several shots of anything i like, just to make sure that there's at least 1 shot that has it all right.


I have found that I can make the auto-focus reliable by using the 2 second timer. It always gets it right. Otherwise, I risk losing the first shot to "mush". I have also found the Fuji absolutely excels when it comes to recording sound in a public place. Here is a video I made with my W3 in very low (or almost no) light at "Xmas in the Park" last Saturday evening (14 Dec 13). The fireworks start around 23:25 if you want to jump to there.

http://youtu.be/PR0c4-JYj-A
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Re: What to buy 3D camera

Postby bether69 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:58 pm

I agree Fuji W3 is very good choice for stereo pctures, anyway for 3D video is OK too.
Recorded sound is better than most compact cameras. Look at my Youtube channel. I recorded Iron Maiden concert.
Cons are: low FPS (only 24) and no stabilization :-(
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... _uWsb1lEol

I use LG 3D P920 too and this is very good for short distance.
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Re: What to buy 3D camera

Postby skyemail » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:03 am

The LCD display is very difficult to see in bright light making it near useless.
I tried attaching an optical viewfinder which worked OK. Then I decided to get the following magnifying hood adaptor which makes the LCD display usefull in any light...
http://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Foldable-V ... ood+3+inch

This unit attaches and detaches quickly so you can view the screen indoors without the hood.
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Re: What to buy 3D camera

Postby Gregos » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:23 am

I ve been using fuji W3 also (and W1 before that ) and it s sure very handy and gives great results ,very simply , unless in low lights or moving subjetcs (good luck taking pics at a party ) .

I needed to upgrase to a more professional level,and folowed IC3D link to berezin site , where i ordered a 2-camera simple rig , then ordered a second pentax k-5 and lense,second hand.

Should be alot of double settings but anyway.

My question is, anyone know the best way to synchronise both shoots ? first idea will be to couple two wire remotes ,that should work no ? any sugestion ?
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Re: What to buy 3D camera

Postby hk3d » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:03 am

linuxluver wrote:
DXG-5F9V

This video camera was cheap (US$150) about 6 months ago. It records video at 1080p, but still images are fairly low res - only about 1920 x 1080, I think - same as the video, but small for stills. For high res video, this camera is pretty good....BUT...the sound recording is poor. The sound is like you held a pillow over the camera and tried to smother it. If I record video with this camera, I tend to add the sound later....usually just music.



This is the camera I'm using for my 3D photos. I bought it even cheaper at amazon marketplace about a year ago.
In photo mode the resolution is selectable between "2M", "5M" and "16M". When in 16MP mode, you get SBS half JPGs with 4608 x 2592 pixels.
My calculator says that's only 11.943.936 pixels, but what the heck, it's a quite good resolution.

Pics tend to be overexposed, so pressing the control stick downwards gets a habit after a short time. The display shows the picture and preview in 3D !! - but in very low res. And it's almost invisible in sunshine.

The distance of the lenses is only 4 cm, so the 3D effect is a bit limited.

All in all I'm very happy with this cam and I think you can't get a better 3D camera for this price.
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Re: What to buy 3D camera

Postby BerndPietsch » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:54 pm

I agree with all statements about the W3 and DXG-5F9V.
The W3 is the best (handy) consumer camera to make photos, no doubt. The videos are acceptable when a tripod, a mechanic or better an electric gimbal are used. Otherwise the videos are always shaky, so that they can't be shown to other people without deshaking them before. But I don't know an acceptable "deshaking" software which has not too many disadvanteges. The result is always the same: less resolution and a zoomed video that you don't want. Additionally, the W3 uses a lousy codec (MJPEG). Normally, you can use a 720p resolution without problems, but not videos made by the W3.
I tested Magix Video de Luxe 2016, Vegas Pro 14 and the free "Stereodeshaker". None of them convinced me.
The DXG, indeed, makes good videos (less good photos), but only when you're having a clear day, still better when the sun is shining. In this case, unfortunately you can't see the display of the camcorder anymore.

Therefore I bought a Sony TD10 that has a very good stabilization system, so you don:t need to deshake the videos afterwards. The only handicap is the little stereo-basis of 3,1 cm and you can't shoot 3d photos. Very annoying! But the videos are excellent under bad light conditions.

I hope you agree with my range of vision and
you understand my modest English.
Best wishes from Germany

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